Matteo Demicheli: The situation in the Catholic Church is more than worrying: it is a Church that bows to “fashion,” which shapes itself, a Church which contradicts not only the Gospel, but even the Commandments. How could this have happened? Where does all this come from? Was Paul VI right when he said in 1972 that: “From some crack the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God”? Was he referring to the Second Vatican Council?
Carlo Maria Viganò: The Catholic Church, as we know, is indefectible, because She is divinely assisted by the Holy Spirit. This does not mean, however, that She cannot be troubled by great crises, wounded in Her unity by schisms, struck in Her doctrine by heresies, disfigured by the moral corruption of Her Ministers. The promise of Our Lord – portæ inferi non prævalebunt – must therefore be understood not as a preservation of the Church from these crises, but in the sense that the gates of hell will not succeed in their intent, which is precisely that of destroying Her. But they will come very close. The apostasy spoken of in the Apocalypse, together with the messages of the Blessed Mother and the revelations of various Saints and mystics, warn us about this war without quarter between God and Satan, a war made up of many battles with alternating outcomes, but in which in the end the triumph of God is very certain and definitive. That triumph was ratified on the Cross by the Passion and Death of the Man-God, and with the historical fact of the Resurrection.
Since the Church is the Mystical Body of Christ, the passio Ecclesiæ is intrinsically linked to the Passio Christi, so that She too will have to face Her own Calvary, be mystically crucified, and be believed to be defeated by Her enemies. These enemies have managed to penetrate the Citadel, just as at the time of Christ, usurping legitimate authority to destroy Her from within by means of new Judases. Paul VI is known for his disturbing contradictions between some of his words and his behavior, such as when he denounced the smoke of Satan that he himself had knowingly allowed into the temple, endorsing the so-called “reforms” of Vatican II and giving free rein to those individuals who until Pius XII were rightly considered heretics or perverts but who were already at work under his Pontificate (just think of Annibale Bugnini or the Jesuit Cardinal Agostino Bea). The indulgence of Roncalli and Montini towards these people was part of a plan to occupy the Hierarchy: a full-fledged subversive action, before which Paul VI not only remained inert, but which he himself favored, simultaneously excluding many good Prelates whom he considered (rightly) as enemies of Modernism, of which he was a convinced supporter.
How did the Catholic Church – or rather: the members of the Hierarchy – reach the point of subverting the immutable Magisterium and openly teaching those doctrinal and moral errors that until then had been severely condemned? By having fostered that sense of inferiority of the Catholic Church – the Domina gentium – with respect to the world, lowering it to the level of false religions and idolatrous superstitions; by the moral corruption of individual ecclesiastics; by the loss of interior life and the state of Grace; by becoming habituated to a life in mortal sin and in continuous sacrilege. A priest who lives in contradiction to what he should believe and profess becomes a perfect prey for the Devil and is no longer able to teach what he himself does not practice. Hence, spiritual blindness and the inability to understand the perfection of Divine Revelation. Hence, the illusion of being able to please the world by watering down Faith and Morality, of being able to be heard and appreciated by adopting the world’s fashions. In doing so, the Hierarchy has progressively transformed the Church into a human entity, with human horizons, thereby condemning it to social irrelevance. On the other hand, why should the Lord bless and protect the men of an institution who have put Him aside — literally: just look at the abandonment of the Tabernacles in our churches — and who believe they can do without Him?
Matteo Demicheli: McCarrick’s associates, Cardinals Farrell, Cupich, McElroy, Wuerl, Gregory, Tobin, and many others, have been promoted to high positions in the Vatican and in the American Catholic Church which, coincidentally, walks arm in arm with the Democratic Party. The party that supports abortion, propagates gender ideology and, more generally, anything that is contrary to the teaching of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Coincidences?
Carlo Maria Viganò: McCarrick’s heirs constitute an ultra-progressive subversive network of authority present today in Rome and in the US Dioceses (and not only there). They are an expression of the deep church, of the corruption of its members, of its complicity in pursuing the same subversive plan with the globalist oligarchy of the New World Order. To revive the fortunes of the Church, it is therefore essential to denounce, prosecute, and remove those who have occupied the Hierarchy’s top positions in an attempt to demolish Her from within. Their behavior constitutes a crime of high treason, and as such must be punished.
Matteo Demicheli: How much did the Saint Gallen mafia, the US Deep State, and the blocking of the Vatican’s electronic payment systems play a role in the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and the election of Bergoglio?
Carlo Maria Viganò: I couldn’t say, because what we know about the coup d’état that brought the usurper Bergoglio to the Throne of Peter is partial and fragmentary. A serious and impartial investigation is needed, which verifies the responsibilities of individuals and above all brings to light the existence, which is incontrovertible, of a single script under a single direction.
We must also consider that having a Pope who acts as the fifth column of the enemy is part of a project, brought to light in the nineteenth century, by the Italian Carboneria [secret society]: it is the “revolution in cape and tiara” called for by the instructions of the Alta Vendita. It has been taken up not only by the US deep state and more generally by the international globalist lobby, but also by the Chinese communist dictatorship, especially after its entry into the World Trade Organization in 2001 with the “liberal conversion” of Xi Jinping (educated at King’s College London and therefore close to the circles of Anglo-American Freemasonry). As I explained in my recent statement on the Sino-Vatican Secret Agreement, communist China is considered an indispensable ally of Davos globalism. After the sinicization of Western economies with unfair competition from Beijing, it was useful to have the Vatican on its side, in order to “sinicize” Catholicism as well. In this effort, Bergoglio, McCarrick, Parolin, Zuppi, the Jesuits and the potentates of the Catholic left – including the Community of Sant’Egidio – all played a decisive role that Benedict XVI had tried to counter. This is why Benedict had to be forced to resign – also through the blocking of the SWIFT interbank system – to make room for an emissary of the woke globalist agenda. It is clear that Bergoglio perfectly achieved what his masters expected of him, starting with the shameful betrayal of those Chinese Catholics who were faithful to the Apostolic See. His effigy, in the gallery of the Popes, deserves to be covered by a black cloth, as the Venetian Senate did for Doge Marin Faliero, the betrayer of the Serenissima, beheaded pro crimine proditionis in 1355 after having tried to establish a personal dictatorship in place of the elective monarchy.
Matteo Demicheli: Despite everything, up until Benedict XVI, the papacy tried to block the growing Masonic influence in the Vatican’s high spheres. With the advent of Bergoglio, were the doors opened?
Carlo Maria Viganò: With apologies, I must contradict you: Freemasonry had penetrated the Vatican’s highest spheres even before the Council. The election of Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli – who is said to have been initiated into the Masonic Lodges when he was Apostolic Delegate in Turkey – confirms that the power of secret sects was already present within the Church, especially during the last years of the pontificate of Pius XII. The audiences with the heads of the Jewish lodge of B’nai B’rith, the Masonic winks of Paul VI – “We too, we more than anyone, are cultivators of man,” he said in the Allocution of December 7, 1965 – and more generally the adoption of revolutionary principles in the documents of the Council, show us a Church under the direct influence of Freemasonry. The group goes from Cardinal Villot to Cardinal Casaroli, from Cardinal Silvestrini to Pietro Parolin. The latter has earned the public praise of the freemason Giuliano Di Bernardo, who hopes for his election. I would like to point out that all the exponents of the conciliar and synodal church enjoy the appreciation of the Lodges, which recognize them as promoters of Masonic ideals: this fact alone should be enough to understand their role as fifth columns of the enemy.
Matteo Demicheli: Bergoglio’s Church imposed the vaccine as an act of love, but a forced act of love is violence. It was the first to adopt the green pass, firing unvaccinated Swiss guards, thus inciting discrimination. It is written “Love your neighbor as yourself” – not depending on how many doses they have had – or am I remembering wrong? In 2020 the Bergoglian Church shut down all Masses just when people needed spiritual comfort the most, eliminated holy water, and opened the doors of churches to the police. Most priests did not give blessings or extreme unction to Covid patients, and even suspended having funerals. But isn’t it written: “I was sick and you visited me”?
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