What Charlie Thought of Francis and Leo

Charlie Kirk might be only the tip of the iceberg in how many serious non-Catholic Christians (both evangelical and Orthodox) refrain from entering the Catholic Church because of the silence of a few conservative Prelates of the Roman Catholic Church.

It is common at the death of a great man for smaller minds to weaponize great minds for their own personal wheelhouse of ideas. For example, in regards to the fallen Charlie Kirk, his friends on earth are currently engaged in bitter debates on if he was changing his once-favorable views towards the current state of Israel. (We will not be delving into that today.)

People are also debating if Charlie Kirk was on his way to Catholicism before his assassination. Of course, Catholics are insisting he was. Evangelical Protestants are saying he was not.

In previous articles, I wrote that I believed there was a good chance he was a catechumen in his heart, even if not on paper. While I can’t prove this, I still hold to that as a serious possibility. Erika Kirk recently had an interview with the New York Times about his death. The NYT described the interview with her: “Around her neck was the pendant of St. Michael that her husband was wearing when he was shot. The medics had ripped it from his body while attempting to stop the bleeding. A trace of blood remained in the crevice of the cross.”

Thus, he died wearing a medal of St. Michael. That’s pretty Catholic to me.

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But Charlie never formally entered the Catholic Church. Why not? I believe it’s because of the anti-Christian theology and politics he constantly saw emanating from the Vatican under the current regime and former regime. Charlie was told by his Catholic friends that Francis and Leo were the “Vicars of Christ.” But Charlie was smart enough to know that the term “Vicar of Christ” meant literally a spokesperson.  Simply put, Charlie Kirk could not believe that the very mouthpiece of Jesus Christ on earth was a Marxist.

And no, we’re not talking here about the bad morals of past frisky Popes of the Middle-Ages, but rather the faith being destroyed by current non-Christians in the Vatican.

Michael Knowles (a good Catholic) was on the Charlie Kirk Show discussing Catholicism and evangelical Protestantism before the latter was shot and killed. Admittedly, Charlie indicated several hurdles to becoming Catholic including transubstantiation and certain doctrines on Mary. But at time-stamp 4:42 in the video here, Charlie then adds: “But the biggest one is the papacy. I can’t get over the idea of this Marxist who calls himself the head of your Church being a representation of Christ Our Lord. I mean that as someone who loves the Catholic impact on the world, that says it openly. And by the fruit you will know it, and you have very Marxist fruit.”

A couple minutes later, Charlie reminds Michael that Francis promoted gay-blessings and climate-change. Then, at time-stamp 7:03 Charlie shockingly says something prophetic: “If my pastor starts saying crazy things I find a new pastor. So if your pope starts saying crazy things, maybe he’s not the Pope.” (Go listen to the video if you don’t believe it.)

How about Leo? In May of 2025, following the last Conclave, Charlie Kirk was on a show with two good Catholics I know in real life: Fr. Pavone and Mr. John Yep. In yet another prophetic (and evidence-based) statement, Charlie Kirk then said: “OK. I mean, look. Not — everyone was doing it in 2020. Well, not us, but, Mr. Prevost, the new pope, was retweeting George Floyd propaganda. But that is what it is. Whatever.”

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